Transfers on White Chocolate?
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Yeah, I agree, especially the dipping as least favorite part.

Never had any problems with white chocolate and transfers. I use the chocolate at 88 degrees. I generally use either El Rey or EGuittard.
These two are the usual ones I make, and never had a flop.
How long do you leave them before unmolding? It helps if you can leave them overnight, even though I have rushed them and they still worked.
Anyone having luck getting transfers to work consistently on white chocolate? I'm finding that the pre-crystallized white chocolate isn't warm enough to melt the image off the transfer sheet. These same transfers work perfectly on dark chocolate.
Any thoughts? Thanks!!
Craig
Antinino:
Take a look at the company Grand-Place. In another forum one of their people mentioned that they had developed a compound that is very difficult to tell from regular chocolate. As the company also operates out of Vietnam (they are headquartered in Belgium) cost and temperature concerns are important to them.
HI Darlene,
the compound i'm working about, is supposed to be (on paper) as good as cocoa butter chocolate. do i believe is that good? not really. Is my intention to expose underprivileged to a better/healthier chocolate (less sugar, organic beans.organic milk powder etc) YES.
I will keep posted on it. i have a huge challenge in front of me, but don't we all have one?
When you perfect it, may I be the first to taste..? I am getting my coating from Italy but have tried several about 15 am still not happy.
I know the real thing is the way to go, and the darker the better for me.
Thank You for you information.
Thank you so very much for helping me ... I was down hearted by the first two answers---because I "have a dream" one not from my flesh, but a real dream! I have to start with what I can afford..I will not let the dream die! Your answer gives me hope...I am very gateful that you took the time to explain in detail. Now I can gofrom your advise. I have Barry Callebaut and am working with it but I do not have the materials to melt it correctly.
Thank You for the encouragement.
There is no real fundamental reason why a dark compound coating should not have a strong chocolate flavor.
Coating is usually used for a technical reason (the higher melt point) or because of price considerations (it's cheaper) or both.
From one of your other questions I am going to infer that the higher melt point of compound is a main reason you're using it.
If you're using a dark coating then the simple answer is to buy a better coating. There are some that are very difficult to tell apart from bulk chocolates.
If you're using white or colored compound the answer is to add very small amounts of a very good chocolate essential oil flavoring. If you do that it's very important to make sure the coating is at a high enough temperature (100F at least) and do a very good job of incorporating the flavoring oil. If you don't it can leave streaks and deliver uneven flavor.
You can also use the chocolate flavoring oil in the dark compound if you are having trouble locating a better tasting dark compound.
However, Lynn and Antonino are essentially correct: the chocolate flavor will probably not be as "good" as if you used real chocolate because the oil is likely to be one-noted. However, the chocolate flavor will be more intense.
Not all of us live in places or cater to markets that can afford to use expensive or real chocolate. While there is no way to turn a shrimp into lobster, we can work as hard as we can to make the shrimp the best it can possibly be.
Hi yes, there is a way... just stop buying it
Unfortunately is impossible to make a lobster out of a shrimp... as Lynn said stick to the real deal.
Dumb ? for chocolate users, but I need some input, Please.
Is there a way I can change the taste of coating to taste more like chocolate? Thank You
Brad.
If you are looking at an Elsinghorst melter, it probably isn't new. The last of those were made 15 or so years ago. But they tended to be workhorses and are very reliable.
Hope that helps!
brian
Hi,
We are interested in purchasing a new chocolate melter for our shop. Does anybody have any experience with the Elsinghurst melter? We are considering the 500lb.
I would appreciate any comments or recommendations.
Does anybody know how or where to find a guitar that is NSF or ANSI or any certification for that matter?
Many thanks.
Maya
If you are using a lot or can buy more in bulk it is work talking to the guys who are supplying you and getting them to knock it back. Or go further up the chain to their supplier and get if from them if you are purchasing a lot - that is what one of my friends did.
That price though $18 per kg is a pretty good price in this country though.
Hi
We operate a medium sized chocolate business in a tourist town in the very south of Western Australia. We have been trading for nearly two years and have enjoyed the challenge. Despite good turnover it'sa struggle to get a return on the investment.
A major factor is the cost of couverture in Australia.A 10kg bag of Callebaut willcost around $180 inAustralia whereaswe understandin the UK it would be about fifty five pounds and in the US around eightydollars(US).
So why is it more thantwice the price in Oz? Could it be that onlyonecompany has the import rights?Has anyone managed to get a better deal on other brands?
Chris
The one made by Selmi is really nice - Tomric Plastics handles it.
Look for a lower % cocoa butter chocolate, ask for it from your supplier, or if looking for higher quality, a similar % cocoa butter in whatyou're using now but withoutthe emulsifier such as lecithin. Look at the viscosity given for your paste andrequest a higher one.
Water brings on problems with howthe chocolate melts downin the mouth and texturewhen eaten.Water can absorb up to twice its weight in the sugars, making a syrup, and the sugars can crystalize to larger and larger sizes over time making it gritty.
I have been in a class where a small amount of water was added to the chocolate, it was stirred vigerously (immediately from when the chcolate was added) and it did not seize. It does thicken the chocolate but I think if you did that the chocolate would be too thick to work with for dipping. I asked for a scientific explanation of why the chocolate did not seize but didn't really get an adequate explanation.
The chcolate is not useless after it has seized. It can be used for ganaches. It just cannot be used for tempering even if remelted.
You might try double dipping the chocolates for a thicker coating or as Robyn suggested look for a chocolate with a thicker viscosity when tempered that would give a thicker coating. www.chocosphere.com hasproduct information, at least on some brands, about differing viscosities of the various chocolates.
Adding water to chocolate is going to make it seize, and then it is useless.
You may just have to try different chocolates to test viscosity, they are all different. I personally don't want my chocolate thick for dipping. I prefer a more fluid chocolate so the dipped items look better.
How do you get the chocolate thick when dipping chocolates. Someone told me to add a little bit of water when you are working the chocolate on the marble slab. Is this true or can you achieve this just by the way you dip?
sent you an email, Brian.
thanks
Mike.
If you contact me at brian@thecriollogroup.com or bdonaghy@tomric.com I may be able to help arrange a visit somewhere.
brian
Hi Todd, I actually come through the SF area every few months. Next trip, if I haven't found one, I will email you. Thanks for the offer!
-Mike
Hi all, posting to ask if there are any of you in the Southern California area that use a Selmi tempering machine who would be willing to let me see it in action in person. I'm very interested in buying one, but I would rather not fly to NY to see the showroom demo. Also, if anyone knows of a shop in Southern California using one, please let me know, and I can try to contact them directly.
Edit: I wanted to clarify that I don't need to touch the machine, just see how it works.
Thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Mike